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Arguments Concerning God Talking with Individuals

One can ask the question as to why God would bother to talk with individuals when almost no one is listening to the profound message given by the words and life of Jesus.

During his life on earth, Jesus said nothing about the myriad aspects of life with which we are faced. Nothing about how to be a better wife or husband, better parent, better boss or worker. Nothing about how to be a better citizen, political or religious leader. He said nothing about science, cosmology, creationism versus evolution, nothing about health, diet or hygiene, nothing about abortion ethics, civic principles or the lessons of history, etc., ad nauseam. His message was not about COPING with the challenges and vicissitudes of life but was about TRIUMPHING over the human condition!

A multitude of people hear voices in their head. These voices are for the most part very troublesome. Sometimes the voice tells the person to do outlandish, savage things like kill their mother or their uncle. Often the voice urges the individual to do something rash, like do something that would kill themselves. The tenor of the communicational content ranges from the very bad, through the neutral, to the good. Of course most everyone is predisposed to think that God would talk with them, and when the messages are good this conclusion is almost inescapable for many. When the urgings or messages are bad or dangerous, most Christians are predisposed to think about devil possession as the cause. There is a contingent of most every Christian sect or denomination that is involved in what is euphemistically called "deliverance ministry", in other words, exorcism or something comparable. When the "deliverance ministers" pay attention to a person with troubling voices or messages and troubled behavior, and cast out the demons with prayer and commands in the name of Jesus, they generally get good results, temporarily. The funny thing is that a psychologist administering a psychotropic drug also gets good results. Knocks the demons right down! Temporarily. Amazing how the voice of God or demons is so susceptible to being neutralized by a chemical!

Sometimes the voice gives information that turns out to be right. Often there are people that get messages for others such as friends, relatives, and neighbors. These messages are indistinguishable from psychic insights, and yet a true believer just "knows" they are from God. But why would God communicate such a message through another person and not directly? This added link introduces bad possibilities ranging from confusion to chicanery. I could never take seriously a message from God that came through another person.

Another question that can be asked is why would any self-respecting person admit that God talks with them unless it is to inflate their own ego? Too many times in the New Testament when God talks with individuals it is akin to an insulting implication. The most egregious case is that of Peter refusing to talk with the Gentile Greeks who came to consult with him about Jesus. Can we not see that Peter is being incredibly stupid and dense? During his ministry, Jesus not only talked with publicans and prostitutes but he hung out with them! He talked with revolutionaries, Samaritans, Romans and Greeks, and he healed  people from these groups. One of his final proclamations was that now his converts could "go and make disciples in every nation". All this on top of Jesus' exhortations to "pull up their tethering stake" and not cling to their old religion, Peter is now not willing to even talk with some Greeks and share information about Jesus?! Incredible! Ostensibly God had to give him a special vision to shake him loose even to this degree.

Also he went right out and violated Jesus advice on not casting pearls before swine, and got tossed in prison and had to be rescued. Any talking with this man by God, whether done while Jesus was around or later didn't seem to have done much good for Peter. The final travesty perpetrated by this ebullient ignorant fisherman is that he kind of appointed himself to be the leader of the band, something that laid the foundation for him to be considered as the first Pope, and to become Christendom's most popular and familiar disciple. You would almost think that Jesus said, "The worst shall be the first."

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