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This is the Nicene Creed, the foundation for Greek and Roman Catholic, and general Christendom Orthodoxy:
Nicene Creed as altered in 381 CE
We believe in one God, the
Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
Christendom has never made sense out of all of what they reference above:
Notice that: They believe that the “Father” preceded Jesus in sequence of existence.
Notice that: The author of this English version transfers the word aeons (ages) into
the word “worlds”.
Notice that: They believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all persons.
Notice that: They call the Father “God”, and Jesus “Lord”. This language is just not very meaningful at best, and at worst is misguided, wrong-headed and confusing.
Notice that: They believe that the Father is primary and created “all things”. This is wrong in that Jesus is the Originator, and the father is his united, unfallen human children.
Notice that: They think the Father and the Son sit on thrones
in heaven, at least part of the time.
Notice that: They believe that there is to be another Parousia, another glorious
visit or return.
1. PAROUSIA. (3952) This word occurs twenty-four times in the New Testament. It comes
from the verb PAREMI which means "at hand," "to be present." The noun
signifies "Presence." This verb emphasizes the actual personal presence of the one
who comes. "Be patient unto the COMING (presence) of the Lord" (James 5:7).
PAROUSIA never indicates the act of coming or the arrival of a person, but denotes the
presence of one who has already arrived. The Vine's dictionary incorrectly defines
Parousia as either presence or coming. Vine introduced this error to support his strong
belief in the pre-trib rapture doctrine. Consider: I am present, here and now, with I am coming
but I am not here but will be sometime. These are opposite meanings. Greek is a
very precise language. If the bible says present it means present not I am coming. Parousia
can never be translated as coming or second coming. If the Greek authors of
scripture wanted to say coming they would have used the word ERCHOMAI. Matt 24:3, 24:27,
24:37, 24:39, 1 Cor 15:23, 16:7, 2 Cor 7:6, 7:7, 10:10, Phil 1:26, 2:12, 1 Thes
2:19, 3:13, 4:15, 5:23, 2 Thes 2:1, 2:8, 2:9, James 5:7, 5:8, 2 Pet 1:16, 3:4, 3:12, 1 John 2:28
Notice that: They believe that there is to be another Apocalypse,
another glorious visit, return or revealing.
2. APOKALUPSIS. (602) This word comes from the verb APOKALUPTO meaning "to uncover,
"unveil," and stresses the appearing or revelation of one by means of an
uncovering or unveiling. It is the disclosure of one who has been hidden
Notice that: They see Jesus as being and sitting some day as THE judge. He said that we would be the “judges”..
Notice that: They believe that the Holy Spirit comes from the Father.
Notice that: They believe in a “Church” and not an Ecclesia.
Notice that: They believe in the efficacy of water baptism.